. >> try to dry some parallels, dan, to that debate between president bush and john kerry. kerry was largely seen at the time to have won at least debate number one. of course, we all know what eventually happened in that race. how much does last night move the polls, do you think? >> it will be interesting to see if it moves the polls. equally important, the psychology, fund-raising, all those aspects between now and -- re remember, this is not going well for him. next week will be the vice-presidential debate in which i think paul ryan will do quite well against joe biden. you could have the situation where they wrap up two debate victories before he gets back on the field. so whether the poll numbers move or not, we'll wait to see, buttal all the other elements you want to see. having the narrative go your way and the grasset reus and your troops be energized. this couldn't have come at a better moment for mitt romney. >> there's been some discussion. the democrats trying to push, the twitter hash tag #testymitt the way he moved around jim lehler. once you take a punch r